The 3rd part of my interview with former President Donald Trump follows, where he discusses whether he will be a candidate for the White House again in 2024 and his possible arguments for doing so.
To read parts 1 and 2 of the interview, click here and here.
When I sat down with Donald Trump in Mar-a-Lago last week, my plan was to wait until the end so that he could be asked to run for president again. But even before taking his seat, Trump was talking about his 20,224 votes.
In almost every interview he has given since leaving office on January 20, Trump has been asked if he will run again. Each time he hinted and hid, teased and toyed with his answer, he simply said that his supporters would be “very happy” with his decision. I decided to ask the question differently.
“Seeing your dominance in the Republican primary and President Biden’s approval rating dropped to 45% nationally and 31% in Iowa and 39% in Michigan,” I asked. Will not Do you run “
Trump scoffed at the arbitrary answer. “I love the country, and I hate what happened,” he said, adding that things have “gone to hell” since he left office. It was a terrible time. ”
At the same time, the former president was leaving to mourn what had happened in Afghanistan, which led to a long journey. A little later, however, I tried it again. “So,” I said, “I know you can do it, but give me a reason you can’t do it.”
This time, Trump is a bit more direct and a bit more harmful. “Okay, one reason may be your health. You get a call from your doctor and that’s it, “he said. “Things that happen; you don’t expect. I just had a medical, just had great results. You never know, a lot can happen; politics is a crazy world. It’s a big promise to you, your children, your wife and your family. . ”
Trump could not resist delivering his standard line that “people will be very happy with my decision”, adding that his new slogan is “Make America Great Again, Again.”
If Trump still has some doubts about 2024, he did not express any doubts about 2020 during the 90-minute interview.
“I feel strongly that the election was rigged,” he said. “I don’t think I could have beaten Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and I just needed a few of them.”
The issue of electoral fairness has become the third railroad in American politics. Among Trump and a good portion of his supporters, there is a sincere belief that Democrats took advantage of epidemic-induced rule changes such as universal mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, drop boxes, etc., to corrupt the system enough to allow Biden. Achieve victory in important kingdoms on the battlefield. To Democrats and most of the media, it stresses the credibility that Trump can really believe this kind of thing. They dismissed the claims as “The Big Lie”, citing a number of lawsuits and reconsiderations that did not provide evidence of fraud to the scale needed to change the outcome of the 2020 election.
Yet Trump still can’t get out of a single idea: that he could have done much better in 2020 than in 2020, he won nearly 12 million more votes nationwide than he did four years ago, and still lost the election.
“You won South Carolina big, Alabama in record numbers, then you lose to Georgia?” He told me “either.”
Trump also cited his victories in traditional bell-ringing states like Ohio and Florida in particular, where he received more than 20 million votes in 2020, nearly tripling his victory margin from 1.2% to 3. %%. Trump said, “So many metrics, when you add them, it gives very little chance on the other side.”
Trump said that before the election, Republican voter John McLaughlin told him that if he was able to win 64 million votes in 2020, he would win if he improved to his 2016 total of 1 million votes.
Trump said, “I got 75 million votes and lost,” Trump said before catching himself and adding, “Probably lost. I didn’t lose. You know, I never admitted. It’s okay not to admit Stacey Abrams, but if I admit.” I don’t … “
Adding to Trump’s skepticism about the legitimacy of the electoral return is what he felt on the campaign trail, where he felt a huge gap of enthusiasm in his favor.
“Don’t forget that when Biden went out, he couldn’t fill his eight circles. Trump said they had to use the press to fill the circles because there was no one there.” And I went out and I, People get it, and then I hear I’ve lost the state? It’s just not possible. “
Trump’s repeated claims that the 2020 election was rigged now present him and his party with a controversy. According to a recent NPR / Merist poll, only a quarter of Trump’s 2020 voters believe the “big deal” or “good amount” is fair. On the other hand, 2% of Trump voters do not believe in “too much” or “absolutely” in the fairness of the election.
Republicans have taken some sort of legal action in the state capital, insisting that Americans’ faith in the electoral system will be restored, and Democrats and sympathizers alike, from “Jim Crow 2.0” to “the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War.” No need to guess where Trump is coming from: he took credit for leading the GOP push in the voting system. “Georgia has a bill, Texas has a bill. Some are stronger than others,” he said. “It’s one of the best things I’ve ever done.”
Some in his party disagree and hope Trump will stop trying to reconsider the 2020 election results. Instead, they want him to look ahead and help Republicans regain a majority in the House and Senate in 2022. Trump thinks it’s backwards.
“The 2020 election fraud is the biggest and most provocative of the Republican Party,” Trump said.
So far, Trump has a better track record in Washington DC of understanding what Republican voters want than pundits and politicians, whether he decides to vote in 2024, rest assured he won’t stop talking about 2020 and the importance of election honesty.
Trump said, “I used to say there can be no country without your borders. But nowadays he adds a qualification. “You cannot be a country with a corrupt electoral process. And we have a very corrupt election process.